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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #60 : Декабря 23, 2006, 00:12:24 »
Насчет музыки ,как правило ,чем человек больше одарен ,тем меньше у него проблем с постановкой,если играть по нотам а не по табам зажима будет меньше.насчет пальцевого движения мне кажется что такм звукоизвлечением тяжело играть флажолеты и фанковые рифы

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #61 : Декабря 23, 2006, 00:41:27 »
Странно, а мне казалось чем лучше препод и исполнительская школа тем меньше проблем с постановкой.. у меня не пальцевое движение, а кистевое, просто опора медиатора на мякоть указательного а не на ноготь. ara, а как можно пальцевым движением фанк играть? ты чес имел ввиду?
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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #62 : Декабря 23, 2006, 11:17:30 »
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если играть по нотам а не по табам зажима будет меньше

Причем здесь табы и ноты? Все дело в технике.

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #63 : Декабря 23, 2006, 16:12:22 »
вот, в том то и дело, что пялясь в табы, у учащегося постепенно как бы сужается обзор грифа ( я не агитирую играть только по нотам ,я против постоянной игры по табам ) по нотам как бы представляешь гриф в пространстве  ,грубо говоря каждый раз играя по табам ты используешь чужое аппликатурное мышление а так как оно у всех разное , то своего не выработаешь ни когда . а насчет техники ,это не только правильная постановка,, а и умение её использовать ,в этом музыкально одаренные люди  всегда будут впереди технорей с точки зрения исполнения (я имею ввиду начальный этап естественно)Сам же я играю скорее кистью хотя в вещах Вогана (прайд энд джой ) использую и логтевое движение(бас вверх аккорд вниз.кто эту вещь играл тот знает) и еще  насчет техники ,мне странно ,что в форуме лидируют по популярности темы о правой руке, как будто левой мы не играем вовсе.А зачастую быстро не сыграть потому что левая не развита , а не потому что правая плохо поставлена...

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #64 : Декабря 23, 2006, 19:51:18 »
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вот, в том то и дело, что пялясь в табы, у учащегося постепенно как бы сужается обзор грифа ( я не агитирую играть только по нотам ,я против постоянной игры по табам ) по нотам как бы представляешь гриф в пространстве  ,грубо говоря каждый раз играя по табам ты используешь чужое аппликатурное мышление а так как оно у всех разное , то своего не выработаешь ни когда . а насчет техники ,это не только правильная постановка,, а и умение её использовать ,в этом музыкально одаренные люди  всегда будут впереди технорей с точки зрения исполнения (я имею ввиду начальный этап естественно)

Вообще то, здесь мы обсуждаем технику правой руки, а не апликатурное мышление. Но в целом с тобой соглашусь.

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А зачастую быстро не сыграть потому что левая не развита , а не потому что правая плохо поставлена...

У меня например наоборот левая лучшая развита, играю легато намного быстрее, чем ПШ, поэтому и создал эту тему.

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #65 : Декабря 23, 2006, 23:00:51 »
Основая масса гитаристов конечно играет кистью но и здесь много нюансов вон например как стив морс играет  .аж большим указательным и средним держит медиатор

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #66 : Мая 24, 2008, 02:21:57 »
Я играю пальцами. Для неоклассики, павера и спид метала лучше не придумаешь. А кистью играю только вещи вроде AC/DC. Highway To Hell пальцами не сыграешь.

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #68 : Мая 24, 2008, 17:55:30 »
Я играю пальцами. Для неоклассики, павера и спид метала лучше не придумаешь. А кистью играю только вещи вроде AC/DC. Highway To Hell пальцами не сыграешь.

Можешь видео выложить?

Играю кистью. Но у меня была такая проблема при игре тремоло, когда пытался все быстрее под метроном доходя до 150+, начал испытывать боль в запястьи, и так продолжалась нескока недель, и до сих пор чувствую неудобство пытаясь играть быстро. Hезнаю как решить эту проблему... ???

Что-то не так делаешь. Анализируй.

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #69 : Мая 24, 2008, 18:14:35 »
Highway To Hell пальцами не сыграешь.
Сколько ты готов поставить на это утверждение? :)
Сори, это я чего то подзатупил. Просто прочитал наискосок. :)
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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #70 : Мая 24, 2008, 18:37:42 »
дада, выложите видео как вы играете ПШ пальцами, интересно поглядеть посмиятцо:)

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #71 : Мая 24, 2008, 18:41:03 »
я себе такое представляю... тупо кисть не двигай ваще.
кончик большого пальца двигай только вверх вниз=-)


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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #72 : Мая 24, 2008, 22:07:45 »
яб поглядел как они это будут играть пальцами :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s5xehRRGiE

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #73 : Мая 24, 2008, 23:06:05 »
Играю кистью. Но у меня была такая проблема при игре тремоло, когда пытался все быстрее под метроном доходя до 150+, начал испытывать боль в запястьи, и так продолжалась нескока недель, и до сих пор чувствую неудобство пытаясь играть быстро. Hезнаю как решить эту проблему... ???
Жесть.

Попробуй сразу в 200, думаю, кисть должна пройти в ту же секунду.

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Re: Пальцами или кистью?
« Ответ #74 : Мая 25, 2008, 11:58:54 »
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